The podcast we sponsor. The conversations we believe in.

What this is

Complicated Conversations is a podcast about the things people are actually dealing with — not the highlight reel version.

Hosted by Jodie Horgan — founder, business coach, and someone who has built businesses from the inside out — it covers the real challenges of building an independent business, navigating change, and figuring out who you are while you do it.

Guest speakers. Honest conversations. And once a month, the Complicated Conversations: Street Edition — where we take to the streets and ask real people the questions we are all thinking but not saying out loud.

We sponsor Complicated Conversations because it is built on the same belief this brand is: that the best things happen when people stop performing and start being honest.

Why it exists

We are Complicated Co. We make organic cotton statement tees for people who are done pretending.

We sponsor Complicated Conversations because the podcast and the brand are built on the same idea — that the most interesting, most useful, most human conversations happen when you stop performing and start talking.

This is that space.

What you’ll hear

You can expect conversations about:

• Building an independent business — the real version, not the highlight reel
• Making decisions when there is no obvious right answer
• Navigating change, career pivots, and the complicated middle
• Guest speakers who are in the middle of building something
• The Complicated Conversations: Street Edition — real people, one question, no script
• What it actually takes to grow something you believe in

How often it’s released

New episodes drop regularly. Subscribe on Spotify or YouTube so you never miss one.

Where to listen

Complicated Conversations is hosted on Spotify as an audio series, with selected episodes also available to watch on YouTube. Listen or watch whenever it suits you.

A quiet note

We're complicated. Are you?If you're in the middle of building something — a business, a career change, a version of yourself you haven't quite become yet — you'll recognise yourself in these conversations.Listen on Spotify. Watch on YouTube.

Come find your people.